I will remind you that intelligence failures involve ...

I will remind you that intelligence failures involve ........
By: Antoine Doinel (Orphaned)
Posted on: 08-26-2009 20:44.
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... being unaware of an enemy capability. They don't attribute capability that doesn't exist.

For instance, we didn't know that North Korea had nuclear capability it was selling to Pakistan.
We also missed on India's capability.

Now, to assume that every fucking intelligence service in the world was fooled by Hussein is the act of a fool.
Better to realize that we were conned into belief by Jailhouse Judy Miller and the rest of the NYT steno pool ginning up the crap stories.

Yes sir, Saddam Hussein had serious weapons of mass destruction and he fooled EVERYONE into believing it.
Stop.

wow - the potato car, 08-26-2009 06:07 (Views: 644; Replies: 54)

I swear, politics reminds me of college sports - pooka, 08-26-2009 15:24 (Views: 616)

Seems more High School to me. [nt] - Phred, 08-26-2009 15:39 (Views: 578)

only because you're too close to it, baseball fan! [nt] - pooka, 08-26-2009 15:45 (Views: 544)

Oh, snap! Phred got told! [nt] - Phred, 08-26-2009 15:46 (Views: 615)

Well when the story is written ... - Antoine Doinel, 08-26-2009 12:51 (Views: 589)

re: - Glenn, 08-26-2009 14:35 (Views: 579)

One has to wonder sometimes if Senators could be lied to by CIA. [nt] - Willie Joker, 08-26-2009 16:33 (Views: 554)

One also has to wonder how the CIA infiltrated UK, FR, RU, DE, CN intel so effectively. [nt] - Phred, 08-26-2009 16:42 (Views: 568)

I don't recall the French, Chinese, and Russians invading and toppling Saddam. [nt] - Willie Joker, 08-26-2009 16:49 (Views: 531)

So invasion is the only course of action if you suspect WMDs, among many other... - Phred, 08-26-2009 16:54 (Views: 553)

Duh, you don't take out your best customer [nt] - Glenn, 08-26-2009 16:52 (Views: 579)

Maybe that's why we didn't invade Saudi instead. Oops. [nt] - Willie Joker, 08-26-2009 17:09 (Views: 546)

Well, no real reason too at the moment [nt] - Glenn, 08-26-2009 17:32 (Views: 593)

I think he means that 15 of the 19 9-11 hijackers were Saudi.[nt] - Paul, 08-26-2009 17:36 (Views: 560)

I'm curious how that relates to the CIA supposedly lying.... - Phred, 08-26-2009 17:43 (Views: 750)

/shrug, don't GAF. Just clarifying what I think WJ meant.[nt] - Paul, 08-26-2009 17:45 (Views: 556)

Yes, the assumption was that Iraq was tied to 9-11, hence, the invasion... - Willie Joker, 08-26-2009 17:52 (Views: 641)

Yes, hard to believe. Too bad there's no way to research that fact. *shrug* [nt] - Phred, 08-26-2009 17:59 (Views: 561)

and the time machine that made the former administration have the same view [nt] - Glenn, 08-26-2009 17:44 (Views: 572)

The case for WMD was always a British/American lie.... - Willie Joker, 08-26-2009 17:58 (Views: 570)

So your Nissan runs on good feelings? - Glenn, 08-26-2009 18:28 (Views: 549)

Incorrect. The French, Germans, and Russians agreed they had the same capability. - Phred, 08-26-2009 18:00 (Views: 607)

I will remind you that intelligence failures involve ... - Antoine Doinel, 08-26-2009 20:44 (Views: 579)

Your red herring about capability overestimation was slapped down last time, chief. - Phred, 08-26-2009 20:48 (Views: 757)

Not only them... - Glenn, 08-26-2009 18:42 (Views: 574)

The French, Germans, and Russians went on record saying there was no proof.... - Willie Joker, 08-26-2009 18:29 (Views: 608)

I know that I trust governments to always tell the truth. - Phred, 08-26-2009 19:34 (Views: 581)

There lies the rub.... - Willie Joker, 08-26-2009 20:23 (Views: 628)

No, I don't engage in the Pelosi-Hoyer tactic of calling dissenters un-American. - Phred, 08-26-2009 20:29 (Views: 590)

I'm not assigning blame to one party... - Willie Joker, 08-26-2009 21:48 (Views: 581)

I agree with the bulk of that.... - Phred, 08-26-2009 21:55 (Views: 578)

There are decades long cease-fire issues with NK, but, we didn't invade. [nt] - Willie Joker, 08-26-2009 22:34 (Views: 564)

Yup. I'm not defending the decision.... - Phred, 08-26-2009 22:50 (Views: 667)

Well "Christians" blew up a building in OK, I didn't start hating the Vatacian! [nt] - Glenn, 08-26-2009 17:42 (Views: 578)

We don't have large military bases in the Vatican either. [nt] - Willie Joker, 08-26-2009 17:45 (Views: 576)

We didn't in Saudi until they asked us to be there. IIRC [nt] - Glenn, 08-26-2009 18:29 (Views: 512)

He didn't vote against the war? But go ahead ... - Antoine Doinel, 08-26-2009 15:04 (Views: 565)

Oooh, I finally found it... - tenneck, 08-26-2009 17:35 (Views: 609)

OK. I'll try. He left a woman to slowly suffocate in a car for 4 hours... - tenneck, 08-26-2009 17:08 (Views: 550)

WTF did he do so well? - Glenn, 08-26-2009 15:16 (Views: 612)

Health care, civil rights, northern Ireland resolution, minimum wage ... - Antoine Doinel, 08-26-2009 16:21 (Views: 590)

so - Ordeith, 08-26-2009 16:29 (Views: 540)

wonderful description of republicans by the way. ;) [nt] - darth maynard, 08-26-2009 20:36 (Views: 581)

Good answers :) [nt] - Glenn, 08-26-2009 16:38 (Views: 579)

Not everyone has your gift of eloquence. - Phred, 08-26-2009 15:10 (Views: 660)

The lion of the senate rides off in an Olds Delmont to his reward. Chivas lay-offs begin [nt] - SlartiBartFast, 08-26-2009 08:14 (Views: 574)

Don't stoop to Cat's level when political figures die. [nt] - Phred, 08-26-2009 13:38 (Views: 645)

Regretted writing it the instant I posted it. Decided not to "memory hole" it though. [nt] - SlartiBartFast, 08-26-2009 16:06 (Views: 518)

Why? Did you kill him? Then what are you sorry for? [nt] - tenneck, 08-26-2009 17:11 (Views: 527)

Pretty classy.[nt] - Paul, 08-26-2009 09:31 (Views: 567)

After you`ve left a woman to slowly drown while you try and figure out how to... - tenneck, 08-26-2009 11:58 (Views: 604)

I see. So the Scotch quip was merely an expression of outrage over her death? - Paul, 08-26-2009 12:41 (Views: 600)

Well, you seem to set a higher standard for Slarti than TK, just MHO.[nt] - tenneck, 08-26-2009 14:49 (Views: 874)

Which you are of course entitled to.[nt] - Paul, 08-26-2009 15:08 (Views: 570)

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